The Five Classes of Hero

 

In my last blog I wrote about adjusting to playing Marvel Champions without the trusty guide of competition showing me where true North lies the whole time.  At first that freedom to do whatever I wanted because there may not be a 'wrong' way to go seemed really nice, but rapidly it turned into deckbuilding agoraphobia.

I felt like a little Civilisation settler, standing alone in my little island of visible squares and surrounded on all sides by the unknown.  Where should I go first?  Did I want to find a river?  Mountains?  Forests?  Indeed should I go anywhere at all or should I start my first town right here?  

"Hey, experienced player.  Can you help me?"

"Sure!"

"I'm new here, what's good, what should I do first?"

"Well, you can go anywhere really and do whatever you want"

"Oh.  Ok.  Thanks."

When you're brand new to a place and looking for a signpost to get your bearings I think being told that you can do anything may well be 100% accurate but it's also close to 100% unhelpful, even if the intentions were good.  When you boot up something like World of Warcraft for the first time as a Level 1 character there's always a quest right in front of you, a trail of breadcrumbs to follow as you learn the game.  Those starting quests help you build up the experience and knowledge to the point where ultimately you can deal with the responsibility of leaving the starting areas to go anywhere and do anything.

Staring at my full collection of Marvel Champions hero packs and aspects I might be just as hopelessly lost as that Civilisation Settler or World of Warcraft newbie.  But I'm a self-starter and I felt like I needed to give myself some points of reference to work from.  

I set out to look at all the heroes on offer and see if I could understand what they did and how they worked a bit better, so that I knew what I was dealing with.

KNOW YOUR HERO

Disclaimer: I'm going to talk about the heroes of Marvel Champions and I'm going to break them up into five broad types of hero.  This sort of thing tends to get people very 'engaged' because they feel like they're being told what they can and can't do with their heroes.  What I want to make clear is that I'm talking about how a character might *lean* towards a particular style of deck or play.  That's leaning, not planking so that they can only do that one one thing and can't do anything else.  It's not even like a Michael Jackson lean where it's a huge effort. 

Most of the time it's just a, you know, "it feels a bit more comfortable just resting my shoulder here" kind of a lean.  Pretty much any hero CAN do pretty much anything, some just do it a little bit more comfortably than others.  Think of it like trying to follow the deckbuilding feng shui of the natural strengths of weaknesses of your hero's stats and their 15 hero cards.

I looked at every hero and their 15 cards that you have to take in your deck when you play them.  I looked at the cost of those cards, but first I went through and bundled those effects into five broad classes:

• General Economy - these are cards which produce resources for you to play other cards, or which draw you more cards (which you could use as resources to play other cards).  Some clear examples of cards in this group are Captain America's Super-Serum which remains in play, the one-time use Vibranium that Black Panther has.  It also includes things like Spider-Man's hero abilities to both produce a Tech resource in Alter-Ego form or draw a card in Hero form Spider-Woman's Finesse (which can pay for any Aspect card), Ant-Man's Pym Particles, She-Hulk's Focused Rage etc.

• Internal Economy - the smallest subset I used, these are economy cards which are mainly focused on supporting the hero's other cards, like Hawkeye's Expert Marksman which can only pay for Arrows, or Black Widow's Gauntlets.

• Offensive - you may think that 'offensive' refers to Attacks and dealing damage but I took a broader view that offense included anything that was proactive and attacked the villain's position and cards.  That could be damage from attacks, like Repulsor Blast, but it could also be thwarting schemes with a Sub-Orbital Leap or destroying minions with Explosive Arrows - anything that saw your hero taking the fight to the villain.  It also included some hero abilities that were similar, such as when Ant-Man flips to either his Giant or Tiny form.  Finally, Offensive cards also include pretty much any signature ally you might think of as they tend to spend their time attacking and thwarting.

• Defensive - just as 'Offensive' was more than just attacks, Defensive cards are more than just damage prevention or healing.  I tried to group together everything that was about slowing down what the villain could do to the hero, so it's got Spider-Man's Backflip in this group of cards but it also has his Enhanced Spider-Sense to prevent a nasty Encounter deck reveal.  It also includes most Status effect changes, such as Stunning or Confusing the villain, or using Tough to avoid future damage.

• Engine Investment - most hero cards have a standalone effect but there are some heroes whose cards operate a little bit differently.  What I call Engine Investment is for the heroes whose cards often have built-in interdependencies where if you play them alone they do very little (or nothing) but combined together they can become incredibly powerful.  Using those cards often means making a resource investment up front which you won't immediately see a benefit from until you've assembled a few of the pieces in one place.  The clearest example is Black Panther, who needs to assemble multiple pieces of his suit together before he can really take advantage of Wakanda Forever.  Quicksilver is quite similar as his ability to ready several times in a turn is far more effective once you've got other pieces that increase his stats. Finally, Iron Man's dependence on pieces of armour to both take control of the table and sustain a large hand size put a lot of his cards in this group too.

As well as looking at what the hero's cards did I took a view on how many resources they cost to play (including the cost of the card you're playing, so a One-Two Punch from She-Hulk costs 2 cards) and then I compared that to the Hero hand size of the hero, just as a way of ranking whether the heroes would find it easy to play their cards because they were cheap, or might need a little help if they were more expensive.  Comparing it to the hero's hand size really shone a light on the restrictions that heroes with just 4 hand size feel, I think.

That's enough preamble, let's take a look at what I worked out...

So I've bunched them all into five broad classes of hero.

TEAM PLAYERS

Originally I called this first group 'Support' but that tag didn't really sit well for me as it was too passive - these are still your hero, still the leaders of your team after all.  But even if the spotlight is still firmly on them the Team Players share a few traits that make them well-suited to letting the rest of your deck shine as well.  

Firstly, their hero cards include strong economic support that you can use to play any other cards you want to play with.  Secondly, their own hero deck has a mixture of offensive and defensive abilities that can flex to whatever you need from them.  Finally the cards in their hero decks tend to be on the cheap side.  That means there's room in the cost curve for you to play some expensive and hard-hitting cards from your chosen aspect, but it also means (if we assume it follows that cheap cards have less impact on the game than expensive cards) they might need your aspect to bring a bit more firepower to the table.

A few example Team Players are:

• Captain America - Super-Soldier Serum is one of the best resource generating Supports in the game and as Steve Rogers you also get assistance playing heroes.  Captain America has a suite of low-cost but low-impact cards, such as Fearless Determination, Shield Block and Captain America's Helmet that are happy to take a back seat in your deck and let the other 25 cards you bring do a lot of the heavy lifting.

• Captain Marvel - in both Alter-Ego and Hero form Captain Marvel has strong & steady economic abilities that compliment her powerful one-shot Energy Absorption resources.  With 3 Energy resources from one card there's no other hero in the game who is as good at generating huge bursts of economy to play expensive aspect cards.  Like Captain America she also has a flexible, but relatively low-impact, set of hero cards with the exception of her Energy Channels when they're ready to be unleashed.

• Spider-Woman - Jessica Drew's resource generation is a bit weaker than the other Team Players but as it can help to play any aspect card Finesse is still a strong economic Support.  The rest of Spider-Woman's gimmick is being a little bit of every aspect so she naturally fits the template of having some offensive effects and some defensive effects.  Just as importantly the main reason to bring Spider-Woman is to deckbuild with two aspects and that alone makes her a Team Player - if you didn't want to be showing off what aspect cards could do you probably wouldn't be playing Spider-Woman to begin with!

SPECIALISTS

Specialists are the smallest group I've identified - currently just two heroes - and I almost killed this group entirely to lump Black Widow and Hawkeye in as more Team Players.  The big distinguishing feature for Specialists is that their card pool has a really strong internal theme (Preparations/Arrows) and their economy cards are dedicated to supporting that theme so can't be used to play any other cards.  I think that changes how you approach deckbuilding with these heroes as they can be so strongly internalised to their hero mechanics that they often won't really interact with the other 25 cards you put in.

At the moment there are only two Specialists in the game:

• Black Widow - each aspect has their own Preparation cards so Black Widow isn't entirely independent of the rest of your deck, but the flow of having to set your little traps up in advance of anything happening can mean you really need some problem-solving cards in the rest of your deck because if she ever gets behind in the game it's not easy for her to catch up.

• Hawkeye - at least Black Widow has other Preparation cards but poor Hawkeye is completely isolated as the only Arrow cards in the game are in his hero set!  Hawkeye's starting 15 cards will be virtually no help at all to the remaining 25 cards you add to the deck and you'll probably need to approach deckbuilding Hawkeye almost as though you're running two mini-decks alongside each other rather than one cohesive deck of 40 cards.

POWERHOUSES

First up, even though the word Powerhouses has the word 'power' in it you shouldn't assume that I'm saying that these are the 'best' or 'winningest' heroes.  I'm using the term Powerhouse to reflect that these heroes tend to be playing cards that have a really strong impact on the game (usually meaning that you've had to pay a lot of resources for them).

There's two really defining traits for these heroes in my eyes: firstly that their cards are very proactive and take the fight right to the villain's door, and secondly they're often more expensive cards but the heroes don't bring much of their own economy to help play them.  It means that when you're building these decks you often need to be thinking more in terms of adding cards that will help you play your signature hero cards.  That contrasts with Team Players like Spider-Man or Captain America who tend to be asking how they can help you play other cards.

A few example Powerhouse heroes are:

• Doctor Strange - I've got five hero classes but I could have made it six.  That sixth hero class would be called "Doctor Strange" and would feature only one hero: Doctor Strange.  Doctor Strange is too good.  Every other hero has 15 hero cards.  Including the Invocation deck that he has access to every turn, Doctor Strange has 20 cards.  Every other hero loses a card from their hand to play one of their signature hero card, but the Invocation deck isn't in your hand so you don't lose a card (although it costs exhausting your hero).  The spells in the Invocation deck are also insanely powerful and insanely cheap.  I said that the 'Powerhouse' group didn't correspond to being the best heroes... well in Doctor Strange's case it does.

• Scarlet Witch - she's the most recent new hero and the Scarlet Witch perfectly fits the definition of a Powerhouse character.  All Wanda needs to do in order to rewrite reality the way she wants it and win the game is keep casting her Magic Shields, Hex Bolts and Molecular Decays as often as possible!  It's a powerful set of cards but an expensive one that really benefits from the rest of the deck giving her the economic help she needs to sustain all her hexes.

• Wasp - in case you've not noticed the trend, the 'Powerhouse' style of hero has been a pretty recent thing and it's been how most of the newer heroes have been designed.  Wasp is no exception to that with Wasp Sting, Pinpoint Strike and Giant Help being some of the hardest-hitting offensive cards in the game.  But they're also expensive - only two Rapid Growth cost less than 2 resources to play in her hero deck - and there's no economic support in Wasp's deck at all so she needs all the help she can get from the cards you're going to put with her.

I do think it's notable that a lot of the most recent heroes to be released have fallen into this Powerhouse model of having really high-impact and distinctive effects but none of the resource support to play them.  Looking at some of the things coming in Guardians Most Wanted, like Groot and Rocket, it seems like that trend is likely to continue for a while.  It puts a big burden on players to play a lot of the same resource generators like Quincarrier and Helicarrier in every deck, but it does also mean that the individual flavour and personality of the hero impacts the table a lot more because their hero deck is a centrepiece of your play.

BUILDER

The Builder style of hero is heavily defined by the fact that a lot of their hero cards don't do very much on their own (or anything at all, in some cases), but as you assemble various pieces they build and build in power, often getting to the point where they far exceed what any other hero can achieve in a single turn.  If you've ever experienced the wonder of playing three copies of Wakanda Forever in one turn you'll know exactly what I'm talking about there!

But that late game power to simply brush aside even the greatest threats comes at a price - you have to invest both resources and time into playing several weak turns while you assemble all your toys in one place.  That tends to make the Builders much more passive in the early portion of the game, often preferring to stay in Alter Ego form for a couple of turns just to draw more cards and dig more deeply through their deck.  That passive style of play doesn't sit well with me personally - I want to be out there fighting crime in my spandex straight away - but for other players it's the only way to play.

Each of the builders has their own nuances and they're certainly not the same as one another, but I think they're overall similar enough that if you like one you'd like the others.

• Black Panther - T'Challa is simultaneously the most all-in on their engine building (9 cards of out his deck do NOTHING if they're not being used in conjunction with each other) and also the most supportive of the rest of your deck.  They can almost function as a hybrid Team Player as their whole Black Panther schtick is just 1-2 resources in cost and they have abundant stores of Vibranium to help you play the rest of your deck.

• Iron Man - unlike Black Panther each piece of Iron Man's suit does something alone, but because his hand size is tied to how many pieces of Tech he has in play it tends to mean he'll only switch into Hero form and start using those pieces once he's got a few of them out.  Evaluating the cost of Iron Man's cards as a % of his hand size is complicated by this factor - switch to Hero form too early and it can really cramp his style, but when he's up to 6 or 7 cards in hand he can really start swinging twice as hard as a normal hero.

• Quicksilver - Quicksilver is probably most like Black Panther in that you can get some value from cards like Always Be Running in the early game, but really you're looking to have all your buffs out and be hanging on for multiple copies of Always Be Running to arrive in a single turn to go out in a blaze of speed!  But if Black Panther is a hybrid Team Player then Quicksilver is a hybrid Powerhouse, with a high average cost in his cards and very little economic support.

MUSCLE

The group of heroes that I call Muscle really have one big thing in common: hand size 4 in hero form.

One less card may not sounds like a lot but for the Muscle heroes it means that everybody else is playing with 25% more resource generation every turn and that restriction on how much harder it is to play either one expensive card in a turn, or two cheaper cards, is a huge impact on how you approach deckbuilding with them.  You need to think hard about including any 4 cost card as it needs 5 cards in hand to play it (the card itself plus 4 resources), and even playing a 1-cost and a 2-cost in one turn is going need some extra help from somewhere.  It may mean needing to flip back to Alter-Ego form more often just to see cards and get things into play!

It's not all bad, though.  

Although these heroes have stunted resource generation their hero cards are stacked with higher ATK values and higher health totals, so you're often looking to make the most of their hero cards themselves as much as you are the cards in the hero deck.  You're always going to have that extra restriction in mind when deckbuilding for them, though.

• Thor - the God of Thunder is an oddity in the Muscle group, because if you play him a certain way he can actually be drowning in resources.  He has permanent resource-generating Supports, his hero ability lets him draw cards and in Alter-Ego form he can happily discard Mjolnir from hand as a resource then retrieve the hammer immediately.  While that's all true the most common uses of Thor do try to keep Mjolnir in play as an ATK buff and he will operate like most Muscle heroes.

• Hulk - ah Hulk, poor Hulk.  Generally regarded as the worst hero in the game, Hulk labours under the combined struggles of a low hand size and expensive collection of hero cards and it's not even like he's got a great hero ability to make up for it!

• She-Hulk - if you assume the dreadful Legal Practice is actually going to get played then She-Hulk's hero cards actually have the biggest cost burden of any hero, relative to her hand size of 4 in hero form.  The saving grace for She Hulk is that she's far more comfortable flipping back and forth into Alter-Ego form, and with 6 cards in her Alter-Ego form's hand size there's even more incentive to do so.  That natural release valve from the Muscle group's throttled resource generation really helps She-Hulk find a role.

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

So let's say you decide to believe me that the heroes can be classified this way.  What can you do with this information?

Well, this *is* how I'm thinking about the game and I've been finding it helps me solve the puzzle of deckbuilding very well.  While I still spend time making sure that I'm fitting to the individual nuances of each hero that I use, the fact that I'm coming into the deckbuilding with a general idea of what I might need those extra 25 cards to do has been incredibly helpful.

I've been on a journey with Protection as I struggled to really understand what the aspect was for.  I started out in Black Widow where a lot of little Protection permanents like Unflappable, Armoured Vest, Electrostatic Armour, Energy Barrier all joined Black Widow's Preparations in play, meaning her deck rapidly became very thin.  But something about that deck wasn't working for me and if I fell behind I stayed there.  I ported more or less the same card pool over to Spider-Man and tried it there but the outcome was pretty similar and I spent too much time hoping I drew a Swinging Web Kick to be able to solve a problem on the table.  I put it into Black Panther where it would fit with his native Retaliate ability, but I found that I was actually doubling down on being passive and waiting for Wakanda Forever because Black Panther was a Builder.

When I finally put those same cards into a Powerhouse hero, Ant-Man, everything suddenly worked much better for me.  The Protection cards were cheap and low-impact and because he was a Powerhouse I knew to bring a healthy dose of economy generation like Team Building Exercise, Quincarrier, Helicarrier and Power of Protection.  A superhero who brought plenty of proactive abilities was exactly what *I* was missing from the Protection card pool previously.  I'm sure other players would have made it work in Black Panther or Spider-Man, but it wasn't working for me.  

And I think it also taught me about the sort of heroes I'll enjoy personally.  I know now that if I'm going to play a passive Builder type of hero I'm going to want to put it with a proactive aspect just so that my ADHD doesn't kick in while I wait for all the pieces to assemble.

Another example is the Go-Go-Goliath deck from my first blog.  I recognised up front that Hawkeye's arrows were very insular so deliberately added 25 cards that were also quite self-contained and had a strong internal theme, without which my deck might be lacking direction.

And I see a lot of comments from players who are used to the old Team Players style of hero, like Captain America or Ms Marvel, and are trying to pick up new Powerhouse style heroes like Scarlet Witch or Wasp by just putting in the same sort of cards that were working for them in their old heroes.  They find themselves struggling to play their hero's cards and come away thinking the hero isn't very good, when actually they need to be adjusting their approach to bring in cheaper Aspect cards and as much supporting economy as possible.  Powerhouses need different support to Team Players, but I don't think that definition is very well understood or widely spoken about.

For me these classes aren't a strait-jacket on how you play your heroes, it was the opposite.  As a new player struggling to grasp all the options available to me starting to think about them like this was the key to unlocking successful decks and playstyles.  I just finished crushing the Rise of the Red Skull campaign with Ant-Man but without thinking about the game this way I'm not sure I would even have tried Protection with him.  

I hope some of this way of thinking about the heroes makes sense to you, too, and if it's helped you understand and unlock a hero or aspect you were struggling with up to now I'd love to hear about it!

Marvel Champions: Into The Co-opera-verse

If you locked 100 Magic: The Gathering players in a room with a brand new expansion they'd never seen before you'd probably have ~100 different ideas about what's good or what's not.  But after a day or two of hurling decks at each other in tournaments those 100 players who probably be pretty much in agreement because ultimately, they played it all out and some stuff was clearly better and kept winning and other stuff didn't live up to the hype.

As I'm finding out, co-operative games don't work that way.

Stop me if you've heard this one.  Six Spider-Man players walk into a bar...

If you locked 100 Marvel Champions players in a room for a couple of days I think you'd still come out the other side with plenty of conflicting opinions and disagreements... and often they'd be disagreements where both sides were right and just had different frames of reference for what was being discussed.  While the 100 Magic players all agreed to play the same competitive format so they could hammer it out, the sheer diversity of the Marvel Champions playing experience fragments the discussions between players, leading to some very real disconnects.  

• Some of the players will be playing multiplayer games, with 4 heroes against the villain, 
• Some will be running the game solo. 
• Some of the players will be playing basic difficulty, 
• Some of the players will be playing Expert
• Spme of the players will be playing 'Heroic' and dealing themselves extra encounter cards.  
• Some playes are building toolbox decks to take on any scenario, 
• Other players are tailoring for the villain they know they have to face.
• Some are trying to beat a scenario for the first time
• Some have beaten it many times and are trying to win by making cool new things happen

It's all speaking to the wonderful diversity of Marvel Champions, but it's also splintering the common experience.

The Value of Competition

I've been playing games for a long time.  My dad was a founding member of the local historical wargames society so I got started young and by my reckoning I'm not far off my 40th year of tabletop gaming.  My first White Dwarf was #105 (which was also possibly the greatest White Dwarf of all time, with the first ever army lists for both Space Marines and Eldar Harlequins in) then I swapped Orks for Swamps when I picked up Magic: The Gathering in 1994. I've been gaming competitively almost constantly ever since, from kitchen table to Pro Tour and back again.

In all that time there's not one game that has had me quite so immediately stumped for getting the feel of it as the Marvel Champions LCG and I think I've worked out why it is: it's not competitive.  

There's no tournaments.

Most important website in gaming history?  Almost certainly.  

Since I first hooked onto the internet in the computer rooms at my university in the mid-90s and typed www.thedojo.com into Netscape Navigator I've been piggy-backing my understanding of how games work from sinking into that game's online community.  Through that community I can learn about the predominant strategic theories in the game, hone in on the best decks or cards or miniatures, and ultimately learn the key concepts that are driving how the game works under the surface architecture.

Tournaments are the whetstone for this type of thing - they're what strategies and concepts are tested against, and through that process either proven or discarded.  It's the Mad Max Thunderdome for game theory; two strategies enter, one strategy leaves.

Tournaments give everyone a shared experience.  Same rules, same objectives, same pool of opponents, same scoring structure.  People may come together from lots of different starting points but they'll usually be heading towards the same place, and thus can agree on whose way of getting there was best.

The Co-opera-verse Conundrum

Without a common goal of trying to beat each other in a competition, who is going to teach me to be a superhero?

In Marvel Champions there's currently 76 possible combinations of individual Hero & Aspect to attempt those scenarios with (19 heroes x 4 aspects).  By my calculation that means there's also well over ONE MILLION possible combinations of four Heroes/Aspects attempting a scenario in multiplayer!  And as a final kicker there's currently over a dozen villain scenarios to play against, each in Standard/Expert/Heroic modes with a dozen optional modules you can add add in and change things up even further.  

Hulk players: choose your aspect!

Success in competition has always been my magnetic north to measure opinions against, but without that shared experience of format/goal it means trying to find a Marvel Champions player who is having the exact same experience of the game as yourself is akin to punching random digits into a telephone and finding it's your closest pizza restaurant picking up the phone, ready to take your order.  It makes it difficult to know whether the advice and opinions you're reading are really going to apply to your experience with the game.

On the Marvel Champions Discord there have been several times where I've been talking things through when I was struggling to get a deck to work and had conflicting advice from two experienced players at the same time.

Player A: "Make sure you get Tactical Genius out early, that's the most important one while you take time to set up"

Me: "Ok"

...later.... 

Player B: "Wait, why did you have Tactical Genius out that's the worst one?"

Me: "I dunno... I was just doing what I was told!"

I'm so used to there being a right answer (accepting the definition that 'the right answer' is 'the answer that's most right most often').  But the more I get my own eye in on Marvel Champions the more I understand that the idea of a right and wrong answer is a tough one to definitively pin down.

You could be talking about a card that's a staple for its aspect, but which you don't want when you play that Aspect with a particular hero (Moment of Triumph is a common Aggression event that heals your hero, but Black Panther has his Vibranium Suit).  

It might be a card that's incredible in some scenarios but wasted in others, like bringing a lot of minion-focused attacks because you're used to battling Ultron won't get you much against Absorbing Man or the Wrecking Crew.  Or you could be basing your Protection setup around defending attacks without taking damage, then come up against a villain who hits a little too hard to reliably avoid damage.

It might even be that your whole deck concept has a gaping flaw in solo play (eg. having very little Thwart) but which isn't exposed at all in multiplayer when another hero can cover that weakness.  Protection players love the new Bait & Switch card for finally giving their aspect a strong way to clear threat from the main scheme, before which Protection would have struggled much more in solo play and a lot of Justice players feel the same way about the new Turn The Tide as cheap way to piggyback damage off their powerful thwarting.

Everything you learn about heroes and card and decks has to have asterisks next to it.  They might be "* except in solo" or "* only if you're Spider-Man" or "* awful vs Mutagen Formula".  That's wonderful for feeling the freedom to explore, but it's also a bit unsettling when you're new to the game and could really do with some stable reference points so you can get your bearings.

If The Suit Fits

I've been through this myself recently.  I started out playing Marvel Champions by pitting two heroes against the villain.  That's what the starting scenario in the Learn To Play had me doing with Spider-Man and Captain Marvel and I just kept on doing it, even though I was the player behind both heroes.  At some point I switched down to playing solo heroes against the villains and I liked it because the games were much faster, I felt like I could test ideas out that much more rapidly and see what worked and what didn't.

I had a lot of fun creating new (to me) decks that would destroy Expert Rhino and Expert Klaw with ease, but all my decks would hit a brick wall when I played against Ultron.  And I started to get really down about myself and that my decks weren't good enough - there was always something that I couldn't control quickly enough.  The drone spam, the side schemes, the surge in threat levels when I stepped up to Ultron III.  My She-Hulk Aggression deck blasted through Ultron II like in two turns like he was made out of paper but never so much as smudged the shine from Ultron III.

Turn Two...

...Turn Four

I got so frequently flummoxed that I started to worry: was I just bad at Marvel Champions?  Was this game not for me?

Then I remembered that I used to play with two heroes, not one.  That's how I'd beaten Ultron in the past.  

And blow me down if my decks didn't DESTROY Ultron.  Those same decks that had been failing solo were incredibly good as a duo.  Ant-Man and Captain America had Ultron on the ropes from turn one, and thanks to Under Surveillance I was winning games without him even getting past his first main scheme, The Crimson Cowl.

I'd switched down to solo play so that I could play faster games, so I'd learn what was good and what was bad twice as quickly.  The trouble was in doing so I'd also changed what I was learning - something being good or bad in solo isn't necessarily the same as it being good or bad when there's multiple heroes around... but I'd not realised that at the time.  I just thought learning was learning, because that's been how every other game I played worked.

So... are my decks not good enough, or are they great?  I think they're both.  And, as confusing as that is, I think it's also perfectly normal.  

Maybe I already am Spider-Man, at least for my little corner of the Co-opera-verse...